All glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga
Minutes of the Primary Trust Online Meeting
India date/time: 13 September 2021 - 8:30 a.m. (Indian time)
Present (alphabetically):
Sri B.K. Ashram Maharaj
Sri B.B. Avadhut Maharaj
Sri B.P. Janardan Maharaj
Sri B.R. Madhusudan Maharaj
Sri B.M. Mangal Maharaj
Those present are all of those mentioned by Srila Gurudev Srila Govinda Maharaj in his Last Will and Testament, with the exception of Sri B.N. Acharya Maharaj who recently passed away, and Sri B.S. Goswami Maharaj who resigned from all boards of the Math several years ago. On being invited to attend, he respectfully declined. His reply was read out at the recent Acharya Board Meeting.
Minutes of the Primary Trust Meeting:
The Members gathered online and gave each due honour and obeisances.
Agenda:
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Expression of purpose: Now after many years we are trying to re-start the Primary Trust after the disappearance of Acharya Maharaj in order to help give guidance and assistance in his absence.
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Discussed the following topic:
Proposal: That it seems there is a need for additional Indian representation on the Primary Trust since only one is Indian on a Board which is primarily here for giving some guidance to the Indian Mission.
Madhusudan Maharaj informed that Trivikram Maharaj wants the Board to know that he has been talking with Shanta Maharaj and considers Shanta Maharaj to be educated and Trivikram Maharaj feels he would be good to have on the Primary Trust Board.
Discussion took place regarding who may be good to add to the Primary Trust, including also Tirtha Maharaj and Paramahamsa Maharaj who both have shown capacity to represent Srila Gurudev's and Srila Guru Maharaj's siddhanta, but who both had some disapproval from Srila Gurudev in the later time. Ten years have passed by, but still it seems Tirtha Maharaj still keeping close friendship with those having much animosity with Gurudev. Paramahamsa Maharaj's mood may now be better and he wants peace.
Mangal Maharaj informed that Acharya Maharaj told to Kamalendu and Sudevi to beware of Shanta Maharaj and Keshto of Puri.
The Trust Board needs to be made up of those who are trustworthy.
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Avadhut Maharaj: mentions that Acharya Maharaj revised the Trust Board and added a clause that if he would pass on or unable to manage, then Tirtha Maharaj would become the President of the Trust. Who holds those papers now?
Mangal Maharaj: informed that Subhrata and Shanta Mj don't hold any papers, but he knows Acharya Maharaj did make a supplementary deed mentioning Tirtha Maharaj as the next President if he passes away. But, apparently this is not acceptable in Indian law, instead the Board itself by vote needs to decide.
Maybe Shanta Mj and Subhrata already changed the Trust Board.
Biphul already arranged many devotees together, and all against Ranjit because they consider Ranjit illegally captured Nabadwip Temple and establishing himself.
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Avadhut Mj: expressed that we need to keep Nabadwip and Vrindavan as international mission. Other temples may be with others.
Where are the documents? Maybe Niriha, Kamaledu, Sudevi, maybe they have. And Biphul has some documents.
Mangal Mj: mentions that Srila Guru Maharaj, Srila Sridhar Maharaj, established a Trust Board in Nabadwip which has various names on it and mentions there that anyone not supporting Govinda Maharaj, he must go out of our Temples.
When Govinda Maharaj passed, then Ranjit and others tried in many ways to defeat Acharya Mj, but cannot, then in Court they claim they are original trustee, and got permission.
Nimaisundar and Gaurakrishna both left from the temple long ago due to being against Govinda Maharaj. And now they are trying again to come in.
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Discussion re what is the legal current Trust Board? What changes have been made? By whom? etc.
We are trying to be advisory to the Indian management.
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Avadhut Mj:
Western world is not looking for power, property, etc. in India, but one Mission for the whole world. Not fight. Run SCSMath like GBC of Iskcon Mayapur.
BPJ:
When Gurudev saw problems with Acharya Mj, he said he could have appointed other Acharyas, then who would he have appointed? Probably Paramahamsa Mj.
Mangal Mj:
Bipul has the resolution books of SCSMath and another of SCSKSanga. They made new Trustee Boards.
SCSMath: many: Shanta, Paramahamsa, Mangal, Jadhu Gopal, Vishvarup, Biphul, Keshto, many. And President is Mangal Mj(??), and Vice-President is Nriha Maharaj
SCSKSanga and branches, they made Shanta Mj the President and me (Mangal Mj) as Treasurer.
Tirtha Maharaj was invited, but declined to join.
Talked with High Court Judge who advised that fighting would likely not stop, so negotiation is better. But Ranjit unlikely to come and join with everyone. One day we tried, but he wouldn't agree. Ranjit is in fighting mood.
Maybe 98% of Indians are against Ranajit.
Giri Mj (Gaurakrishna) disrespect Govinda Mj.
Bhakti Nandan Swami Mj came to join with us because he's very anti Ranajit.
In Indian section, nobody followed Govinda Maharaj's decision.
BPJ: Asks who from India side could be added to the Board?
Avadhut Mj: Do the Indians want to include Westerners in the new Trust Board.
Ashram Mj: I talked with Shanta Mj for one hour. He confirms as Mangal Maharaj is saying regarding the two Trust Boards they've made in India. Shanta Mj says that Western devotees may join if they write to apply.
Avadhut: Western section want to maintain Nabadwip and Vrindavan as international. But Ranajit claiming himself as everything. Ranajit hiring sahajiyas to do kirtan in our Math. We want to keep especially Nabadwip and Vrindavan pure and clean.
BPJ: Re the Trust Board: Gurudev gave there that it is between 3 and max 7 persons. We want trusted persons, so not necessary immediately to bring in more since we are 5 persons.
Shanta Maharaj is saying they don't want foreigners running India, but he is wanting money.
Ashram Mj: Stating that this board is made by Srila Gurudev himself. We first need to follow the advice and instruction of Srila Govinda Maharaj. We are not here to be Lordship over Indian devotees.
It is important if we can have another full disciple of Srila Gurudev on this board, Indian, that would be good.
BPJ: Strongly expressing how Nimaisundar was removed by Gurudev from the Temple.
Expressing that Paramahamsa Mhj has full initiations from Srila Gurudev can help against Ranajit, also he won't want to work cooperate with Nimai and not with Shanta Mj too. Asks Mangal Mj's opinion.
Mangal Mj: His nature has changed over course of time. He's quiet and peaceful.
Avadhut MJ PROPOSAL: I feel we need to send deputy to India, and Ashram Mj would be best for that as he's a gentleman and has some special power. He and Janardan Mj can help keep peace with Acharya Mj's disciples. Need to be peaceful discussion re keeping Nabadwip clean spiritually.
Not force. Not a fight or conflict, but looking for Vaishnava seva and restoring the dignity position of the Math.
Good someone will meet them and try to cooperate and harmonise with the help of Western and Indian working together. No one likes that in Nabadwip they are eating, sleeping and fighting.
BPJ: Since they make a legal document for control of SCSMath and SCSKSangha but they presumably don't have actual control of Nabadwip, because Ranajit has that control.
BPJ PROPOSAL: So we need some legal representative and advice so we can ask about the legal position of the two organisations.
Proposal. Should we consult with Mr Sau about the legality of the papers they formed?
Mangal Mj: I have good relation with Amiya Sindhu and some with Mr Sau who invited me to his house to discuss the situation. But what is his identity? He's a well-wisher, lawyer, chartered accountant. But he asked some big money to Biphul for some papers that Biphul then got himself cheaply.
Avadhut Mj: Mr Sau's initiated name is Amiya Kumar Prabhu. Maybe he asked money from Biphul, but he has trust in us and hasn't asked us any money for anything.
It seams some of the Indian devotees only want connection with the Westerners for their money. But as advisors and trustees of the Mission we wish to assist the Indian mission.
Avadhut Mj PROPOSAL: Mangal Maharaj can have a meeting with the Indian devotees and then inform us of the outcome of that meeting. If some have any heart for the Westerners, then we can join. But not that they just use us for money.
Ashram Mj: We need to have someone on the Trust Board representing Srila Acharya Maharaj because many of his devotees are there and Gurudev declared that Acharya Maharaj would be his successor. So we need someone from his group on the Primary Trust Board.
Ashram Mj and Avadhut Mj: asking Mangal Mj to send list of names on the Trust Boards that have been formed in India.
BPJ: Is it so that Tirtha Maharaj is going on parikramas with Giri Maharaj (Gaura Krishna)?
Mangal Mj: Not sure about that. But Giri Maharaj is saying offensive things against Gurudev.
Avadhut Mj PROPOSAL: Mangal Mj to have a meeting with the Indian devotees and then give us a report before the next Meeting.
We want to know if the Indian groups wish to go on with International section or not. And who will be guru in India and what is their qualification to do so?
Mangal Mj: In that big group, they have selected, possibly Swami Mj, Shanta Mj, Nrihi Mj, Paramahamsa Mj (and one other?). Only these are Gurus.
Madhusudan Mj: Mangal Mj mentioned he's been meeting with Judge, etc. This is like 'deja vu' - we've done like this before at the time when we had very strong Acharya Mj and focus on what is to be achieved, but Ranjit defeated all that.
If now the plan is to defeat Ranjit, then you have a strong opponent. So, can we consider the path of trying to make harmony with Ranjit instead, as Mangal Mj mentioned earlier, as he was advised by the Judge.
Gurudev would try to see from everyone's point of view. And we can understand they need to rent rooms in order to get some money, but not to rent the temple rooms.
I'm very happy to see that this has been a gentlemanly unified talk amongst us. And this is necessary for others to see that this is a sensible, sober group of devotees who are trying to give good guidance. The face of this gathering is honourable. Srila Guru Maharaj and Srila Gurudev made a home, not just of bricks, but a home of the heart for the devotees.
BPJ: This needs to be attended to with a stick. That's the only direction with Ranajit. However now that's not the matter. Now is the matter of what we can do regarding the Members of the Primary Trust Board. Now there are five memebers, and that's fine with me.
Avadhut: Let us hear from the Indian devotees, their opinion. Our concern is India will run not with gundas but with faithful people who can present our siddhanta and receive pilgrims nicely.
Avadhut Mj: Now we have discussed much. Now we should close this Meeting and consider the points we have raised. No one wants that for the next 20 years we shall fight. But Ranjit should not be the Acharya there. SCSMath Nabadwip needs to be kept very clean and 100% under Guru Maharaj and Govinda Maharaj's philosophy. Parampara must be up to Govinda Maharaj.
Ashram Mj: I do not accept that the Parampara should be only up to the picture of Govinda Maharaj.
(Here, Avadhut Maharaj, with obeisances to all, signed out after explaining a little while ago that he has 10 people waiting for him).
Ashram Mj: That would not be honest, since Srila Gurudev mentioned publicly and established him as his successor or the leading Acharya in SCSMath. I think we cannot put aside Acharya Mj's picture.
BPJ: If we remove, then we will lose the support of all Acharya Mj's many followers.
BPJ: I am very happy Mangal Mj is on the Trust Board with us, and I don't want to add anyone who is not trustworthy. They must be loyal persons of Gurudev.
Ashram Mj: There's a necessity, as Avadhut Maharaj mentioned, that Mangal Maharaj will convey to the Indian devotees what we have talked today, and let them see that we want to join together everyone, and we want to respect the decision of Govinda Maharaj.
We want to try to establish what is originally said in the Will of Srila Gurudev
BPJ: My main concern is that I cannot work with Swami Maharaj or Giri Maharaj because they are against Govinda Maharaj. And also not Bhagavat Mj.
Let's end the Meeting here.
NEXT MEETING set for:
7 pm in California - Sunday 19 September
9 pm in Mexico - Sunday 19 September
4 am Italy - Monday 20 September
7:30 am India - Monday 20 September
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Meeting Ended 10:30 a.m. India time
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ACTION SUMMARY:
-) Mangal Maharaj to have a meeting with the Indian devotees and then inform us of the outcome of that meeting.
UNFINISHED:
-) No immediate decision reached regarding inducting a new Member to the Trust Board.
-) Avadhut Maharaj proposing:
We need to send a deputy to India, and Ashram Mj would be best for that as he's a gentleman and has some special power.
-) Srila Janardan Maharaj asking:
Shall we seek legal representative and advice so we can ask about the legal position of the two organisations formed in India.
Should we consult with Mr Sau about the legality of the papers they formed?
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